My thoughts on Casey… again

November 5th, 2006 by Kenric

I’d like to think that I write a happy blog.  A blog with no negative thoughts towards people, one that encourages people to expand their lives and try new things.  When I first read and wrote about Casey’s blog I was glad he was willing to tell his story online and hoped that he would get out of his mess.  But after hearing the fiasco from the past week on No Limits Ladies I went from a supporter to a hater.

However, after reading his post about a spam email that he had sent out to his mailing list I’ve become convinced that he will not get out of this mess.  I don’t think he has the integrity nor the fortitude to be able to do it.  I actually believe that he doesn’t want to get out of his mess.  I think he’s going to let this hang around as long as possible, generate great blog traffic for a while, then declare bankruptcy and hopefully sell his story.

Here is the deal on the spam email.  Casey’s old friend from high school received this email.  I’ve bolded the relevant part of the letter for my discussion.

This January I quit my job to do real estate investing full-time. Together with partners in the area we buy and sell houses for fast gains and we also hold property for appreciation. In the first part of the year I personally bought 7 houses in 4 different states. It’s not all easy – there is definitely a learning curve. It helps to have experienced associates to help me along. Now what??

We have a unique opportunity to continue to expand the real estate business. Because of the market reversal in California there is going to be many people in trouble with their loans. People have been buying more home then they can afford or refinancing like crazy. Foreclosures are already on the rise and they are going to sky-rocket in the next several years.

There is an opportunity to 1) help people out of trouble and 2) make some money. Service and integrity comes first though. I know what its like to be behind payments and face foreclosure. I refuse to be a “shark” investor.
It must be win-win, or no deal. Want to participate?

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So this letter created a bit of an outrage because we all know what Casey’s situation was now.  But at the time of this letter it wasn’t disclosed.  Casey wrote is his friend a follow up letter explaining his situation.

So today Casey responded to these letters on his blog.  Again I’ve bolded certain parts.

To everybody…..

Yes I DID send out that email to try to find some private lenders who want to put their money to work with me.

I wanted to use the money to bail out the properties, sell them and pay the lenders back. I wanted to also use the money for buying new properties. I was going to explain everything to a private lender once we meet.

To make it safe, I was going to secure the lender’s money by a trust deed against my properties.

I was following the directions given to us at one of the seminars on how to find private lenders for your real estate deals. My goal was to borrow small amounts of money, say $5-10K, and use it to catchup my payment, sell my properties and pay the private lender back a generous 24% annualized return.

I was going to use the equity in the properties as collateral for the loans. Additionally I wanted to use the money to do more deals to get my real estate business back in shape.

So in his first email he states that he only invests in properties that have double the equity of the investment amount.  Then he admits that his plan was to secure this new found money against his properties, which all of us know have virtually no equity.  He did not have 50% equity in any of his properties.  He must have known that when he sent out the email.  The fact that he sent out that email tells me that this guy is not honest and has no integrity. 

His blog is beginning to fall apart.  His plans and course of action do not make sense anymore.  I think that his lies are finally catching up to him.  It’s hard to keep covering up lies with more lies.  You’re gonna slip.  And with so many people reading you every move, anything that doesn’t add up will be uncovered.



  1. 6 Comments to “My thoughts on Casey… again
  2. I totally agree with your analysis. The guys seems to be very dishonest, and I really don’t think he has any idea how to get out of this mess (I don’t think it would be that difficult, although he might still be in debt afterwards, but it would be manageable).

    I did have some reservations about analysis of the email trail however.

    Mostly, I think Casey’s story has given all us PF and REI bloggers something very interesting to talk about. It has sparked a lot of interesting discussions about the validity of real estate investing, and even about the morals when it comes to buying and selling foreclosures.

    NLG

    By NLG on Nov 5, 2006

  3. His story is interesting. I’m anxious awaiting his story about his Phoenix trip. I believe he was offered a great deal because I know the people offering it and I can’t believe he turned it down. I’ve become a regular reader there now, but it’s more of a TV show to me now than a REI blog.

    By Ken on Nov 5, 2006

  4. And with so many people reading

    BINGO! Something tells me he is not as dumb as he lets on.

    By Steve on Nov 6, 2006

  5. Steve, I agree, he’s probably making a decent income on his blog and that would be fine for a normal person. But he’s deep in debt, he’s probably making 100’s when he needs 10,000’s. Plus his blog may only have this traffic for a few months and then die.

    By Ken on Nov 6, 2006

  6. Yeah- he’s not making much from his site. I still haven’t read the whole thing, but the comments about me and NLL are funny.

    By prlinkbiz on Nov 6, 2006

  7. I haven’t kept up with his story, so I am in the dark about a lot of things. I just wonder exactly what he is thinking? I can’t pinpoint on when this whole thing started, but I know it’s been a while. Wouldn’t he already be starting to get in hot water from various people by now? Of course, I’m in Texas, which only has a 21-day foreclosure window, so his state may be one of those year-long foreclosure states. Just seems like there is something going on behind the scenes here.

    By Steve on Nov 7, 2006

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